From NPR.

Maryland Governor Wes Moore says he is not now running for president, but he’s clearly giving a lot of thought to the challenges the next president will face. In an interview with NPR’s Steve Inskeep, Moore said the next president should acknowledge that some institutions were broken by Trump and cannot be revived. Other institutions may survive but “need to be broken.”

The governor sat for an NPR video interview Wednesday at the Maryland State House.

This is a clip from NPR’s “Newsmakers,” our new video podcast that takes you face-to-face with the person of the moment.

Watch this full conversation on our channel.