From The Atlantic.
In this week’s episode of “The David Frum Show,” The Atlantic’s David Frum opens with his reaction to the recent election in Hungary and the defeat of Viktor Orbán. David counters Orbán defenders who claim that this loss proves Orbán was never a threat. Antidemocratic leaders often face institutional constraints, and it was those institutional constraints that compelled Orbán to accept a defeat after years of abuse of power.
Then, David is joined by former U.S. Deputy National Security Adviser Matt Pottinger to discuss the current state of President Trump’s war in Iran. David and Pottinger talk about the recent failed negotiations between the two sides in Pakistan, the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, and what could happen next. They also discuss how the Iran war is viewed in China and how it has been a financial gain for Russia.
Finally, David ends the episode with a discussion of “Labyrinths,” by Jorge Luis Borges.
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00:00 Introduction
01:02 Orban Defeated
03:30 EU and NATO Victory
07:27 Matt Pottinger
08:55 Talks Fail and Nuclear Red Lines
10:42 Dueling Blockades at Hormuz
15:28 New Warfare and Navy Risks
17:41 The China Angle
22:38 Asia Energy Shock and Trust in US
30:29 Russia Cashes In
33:34 Drone War Lessons
37:37 Iran War Endgame Questions
45:51 Why Coalitions Matter
49:36 "Labyrinths” by Jorge Luis Borges


