From The Atlantic.
On this week’s episode of “The David Frum Show,” David opens with his reflections on the recent shootings in Minneapolis. He argues that these killings, alongside ICE’s warrantless home raids and mistaken detentions, and the reports of deaths in custody, are not isolated abuses but signs of a rapidly deepening crisis in American democracy, one in which basic rights and due process are applied unevenly and increasingly contested. David asks whether the country can find a way back from a dangerous moral and political impasse, as a majority of Americans recoil from these actions while a determined minority continue to defend them.
Then, David is joined by the “New York Times” columnist and Atlantic contributor David Brooks. Frum and Brooks discuss the origins of the term “neocon,” what the neocons got right, and why they should be listened to today. Brooks describes how America’s problems long predate Trump, and why elections alone cannot fix what has been lost. Together, Frum and Brooks explore whether the country is capable of moral renewal, what rebuilding would actually require, and why recovery, if it comes at all, will be slow, difficult, and deeply personal.
Finally, David ends the episode with his thoughts on “Death by Lightning,” a television series on Netflix based on the assassination of President James Garfield, and how, when watching historical dramas, we need to look back on the past with a contextual lens, one that we should bring to our present too.
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00:00 Introduction
00:59 A Series of Unprecedented Events
01:59 Another Death in Minneapolis
08:55 Conversation With David Brooks
10:30 Origins of Neoconservatism
18:28 What Can We Learn From The Neocons?
22:04 What Happened to the Conservatives We Knew?
25:07 Neoconservatism and the Iraq War
33:15 Moral Collapse and Rise of Trump
35:30 How Should Trump’s Administration be Held Accountable?
46:36 Neoconservatism and Trump Voters
50:51 The Future of Presidential Power
53:48 Death by Lightning,
