From StarTalk.

In this episode, Neil deGrasse Tyson, co-host Chuck Nice, and guest David Grinspoon explore the possibility of life existing in the atmosphere of Venus—particularly within its stable cloud layers. They revisit the controversial phosphine detection and debate whether life could thrive without a planetary surface, comparing Venus’s permanent cloud deck to Earth’s oceans and discussing how extreme chemistry might still allow for biological processes. The conversation expands to the future of astrobiology, including the Europa Clipper mission and the political resilience of NASA’s long-term space exploration efforts.

From ‘Why We’re Going Back to Venus, with David Grinspoon’: https://youtu.be/lpY0iY5PgRg?si=3Nx1n6Al98eu9gAV

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