From StarTalk.

In this episode, Neil deGrasse Tyson is joined by co-host Chuck Nice and guest David Grinspoon to explore the history of “space futures” — the evolving visions humanity has had about space exploration and what it would mean for our future. Grinspoon discusses how cultural forces like science fiction, politics, funding, Apollo, and figures such as Carl Sagan shaped our expectations of the space age, while Chuck reflects on how Star Trek influenced his scientific curiosity. The central theme is how imagined futures — from 2001: A Space Odyssey to Apollo — shape real scientific ambition and public support for space exploration.

From ‘Why We’re Going Back to Venus, with David Grinspoon’: https://youtu.be/lpY0iY5PgRg?si=3Nx1n6Al98eu9gAV

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