From The Atlantic.
On this week’s episode of “The David Frum Show,” Atlantic staff writer David Frum opens with his take on President Trump’s reaction to a recent Supreme Court defeat on tariffs, arguing that the real issue is not just economics but the president’s drive for unchecked power.
Then David is joined by Tim Miller of “The Bulwark” to unpack Tim’s recent trip to Minneapolis and what he saw on the ground amid ongoing ICE enforcement operations in the Twin Cities. They explore why younger Americans find “Resist libs” cringe and how that cynicism has helped fuel Trump’s politics. David and Tim also debate whether Never Trump conservatives are losing the core values that once defined them and whether that evolution is necessary in order to actually take on Trump.
Finally, David revisits the history and meaning of the State of the Union address, questioning whether this long-standing ritual needs rethinking in the Trump era.
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00:00 Introduction
00:37 Trump’s Tariff Court Loss
03:05 War with Iran: Where is Congress?
05:37 Conversation with Tim Miller
10:04 Tim’s Minneapolis Trip Takeaways
15:31 Are Resistance Libs Are Cringe?
20:42 Young Men, Nihilism, and Messaging
29:19 Two Democratic Factions
33:51 Winning Requires Big Tents
40:03 Republicans and AOC?
45:48 North Star And Violence
54:02 State Of The Union Rethink
