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It’s a Nintendo Switch 2. What could it cost, a thousand dollars? In this episode, Nilay, David, and The Verge’s Richard Lawler talk through why we don’t really know. But first, we talk about the Switch 2, and some of the reasons we’re excited — and maybe just a little concerned — about Nintendo’s new console. This is likely to be the most interesting device of the year, and we learned an awful lot more about it this week. We also talk about Microsoft’s 50th anniversary, the fate of TikTok, and other gadget news. Then we get to tariffs, with the help of Tuneshine creator Tobias Butler, who explains how tariffs affect the way hardware companies do business — and how they’re navigating the current uncertainty. After that, in the lightning round, it’s time for a little Brendan Carr is a Dummy, followed by the latest on Tesla’s sales numbers, Alexa Plus, and Coyote vs. Acme.
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Further reading:
The 50 best things Microsoft has ever made: https://www.theverge.com/microsoft/636951/microsoft-50-best-products-anniversary
Nintendo Switch 2 hands-on: it’s all in the games: https://www.theverge.com/nintendo/642420/nintendo-switch-2-hands-on-preview
Nvidia confirms the Nintendo Switch 2 has DLSS and real-time ray tracing: https://www.theverge.com/news/642793/nintendo-switch-2-dlss-support-nvidia-ray-tracing
Nintendo Switch 2 specs: 1080p 120Hz display, 4K dock, mouse mode, and more: https://www.theverge.com/news/630264/nintendo-switch-2-specs-details-performance
Here’s everything Nintendo has revealed about the Switch 2’s Joy-Cons: https://www.theverge.com/news/642024/nintendo-switch-2-joy-con-controllers-mouse-magnetic-attach-c-button
‘TikTok America,’ Amazon, and other rumors about who might buy TikTok:
https://www.theverge.com/news/642158/tiktok-america-ban-amazon-applovin-rumor-deadline
Tuneshine – Your space, your music: https://www.tuneshine.rocks/
Donald Trump announces tariffs that could raise the price of almost everything you buy: https://www.theverge.com/news/642240/trump-tariffs-imports-apple-manufacturing
Reciprocal Tariff Calculations | United States Trade Representative: https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations
Trump’s new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT’s: https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok
Trump’s tariffs are ‘a debacle of epic proportions’ for the auto industry: https://www.theverge.com/cars/642706/car-tariff-trump-price-increase-loan-ford-gm-tesla
T-Mobile closes Lumos deal after dropping DEI: https://www.theverge.com/news/641068/t-mobile-closes-lumos-deal-after-dropping-dei
E&C Democrats Launch Investigation into FCC Chairman Carr’s Repeated Attacks on the First Amendment: https://democrats-energycommerce.house.gov/media/press-releases/ec-democrats-launch-investigation-fcc-chairman-carrs-repeated-attacks-first
Sony’s new Bravia lineup includes its ‘King of TV’ successor: https://www.theverge.com/news/641755/sony-bravia-8-ii-qd-oled-announced-king-of-tv-successor
Tesla’s sales plummet 13 percent as Musk backlash grows: https://www.theverge.com/news/641311/tesla-q1-2025-delivery-production-sales-slump-musk
Best printer 2025: just buy a Brother laser printer, the winner is clear, middle finger in the air: https://www.theverge.com/tech/641940/best-printer-2025-just-buy-a-brother-laser-printer-middle-finger-in-the-air
Alexa Plus just launched in early access, but it’s missing some features: https://www.theverge.com/news/639697/amazon-alexa-plus-launch-early-access-missing-features
Coyote vs. Acme is finally coming to theaters: https://www.theverge.com/news/632742/coyote-v-acme-ketchup-entertainment-theatrical-release
00:00 Intro and Webby awards nomination
00:15 Welcome to Vergecast
02:18 Microsoft’s 50th Anniversary
15:42 Nintendo Switch 2 reactions
26:48 TikTok’s uncertain future
46:59 Tuneshine’s Tobias Butler on tariffs and small business
01:13:58 Brendan Carr is a dummy
01:26:51 Sony’s new Bravia lineup
01:31:31 Saturday Samsung
01:35:40 Tesla’s declining sales
01:40:52 Coyote vs. Acme returns
01:43:39 The best printer recommendation
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