From Adam Conover.

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Last time we faced a Trump administration, people flooded the streets in protest. But this time feels different. Even as we watch our government being systematically dismantled, the response seems muted. Are we just exhausted? Or is something else at play? And more importantly—does protest still work, or is there a more effective way to protect our future from a newly entrenched autocracy? This week, Adam speaks with friend of the show Dr. Dana Fisher about what we actually need to be doing. Find Dana’s book at http://www.factuallypod.com/books and find Dana here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-r-fisher/ BlueSky: @fisherdanar.bsky.social; Instagram: @ApocalypticOptimist; TikTok: @fisher_danar

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